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      <title>We benchmarked an 84% token reduction. Then we open sourced the protocol.</title>
      <dc:creator>Martina Zrnec</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://forem.com/mz06/we-benchmarked-an-84-token-reduction-then-we-open-sourced-the-protocol-2j87</link>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Why agents are reading your HTML wrong, and what we did about it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was watching an agent answer a simple question.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The question was small. Three sentences would have covered it. The agent loaded the page, parsed the HTML, walked through nav bars, footer links, cookie banners, a sticky "subscribe to our newsletter" modal, three paragraphs of preamble, and finally, found the part it needed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twenty thousand tokens.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For three sentences.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is happening everywhere right now. Quietly. Constantly. Every agent, every query, every page. We've handed agents a web that was built for human eyeballs and asked them to make it work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It does. Expensively.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  The shape is wrong
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The web was built for browsers. Humans scroll, scan, skip the boilerplate. Our eyes know what nav bars look like.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Agents don't get that for free.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They read the whole thing. There's no "give me the relevant part" channel, scaffolding and all. Every header, every analytics script, every footer link in twelve languages. The cost gets paid in tokens, latency, and the slightly absurd reality that an agent might burn more compute parsing your nav menu than thinking about your content.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is a shape problem. And no amount of optimization fixes a shape mismatch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  ACP: a shape, not a framework
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://atomiccontentprotocol.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;ACP — Atomic Content Protocol, is an open spec for structured content envelopes.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not a framework. Not a platform. A shape.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You pre-compute a compact, enriched representation of your content. You persist it. You serve it first. The envelope sits in front of the body, it doesn't replace it. The body is still there if anyone needs it. Most of the time, agents don't.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Built on top of MCP. Open spec, MIT licensed, &lt;a href="https://www.npmjs.com/settings/atomic-content-protocol/packages" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;npm package shipped&lt;/a&gt;. Designed to complement protocols already in motion, not replace them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here's roughly what an envelope looks like:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;div class="highlight js-code-highlight"&gt;
&lt;pre class="highlight json"&gt;&lt;code&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"id"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"atom_7f3a..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"summary"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"AI is the capability of computational systems to perform tasks associated with human intelligence..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"classification"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"reference"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"language"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"en"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"tags"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"artificial-intelligence"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"machine-learning"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"deep-learning"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"neural-networks"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;],&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"key_entities"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"OpenAI"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"Google DeepMind"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"Transformer Architecture"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"AGI"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"NLP"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;],&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"confidence"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="mf"&gt;0.85&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"provenance"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"tool"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"acp-enricher"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"version"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"0.4.2"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"generated_at"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"2026-05-14T09:12:33Z"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;},&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"agent_discoverable"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="kc"&gt;true&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nl"&gt;"body_ref"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="s2"&gt;"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="w"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;



&lt;p&gt;Content gets broken into &lt;strong&gt;atoms&lt;/strong&gt; - discrete units with stable IDs. An agent that needs one specific atom asks for that atom. Not the page. Not the full body. The atom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That's the whole idea. The simplicity is doing a lot of the work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  The pipeline
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The enrichment runs async. We're not blocking the write path or paying a real-time tax. The flow:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Content changes → trigger flips a &lt;code&gt;dirty&lt;/code&gt; flag on the row&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Queue worker picks it up out-of-band&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Enricher generates the envelope (summary, tags, entities, classification)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Envelope is persisted to the database&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Agent requests come in → envelope served from cache, body fetched only if asked&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the time an agent shows up, the envelope is waiting. No on-demand computation, no LLM call in the request path. Just a read.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Three modes when the agent queries:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;div class="table-wrapper-paragraph"&gt;&lt;table&gt;
&lt;thead&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;th&gt;Mode&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;Cost&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;th&gt;What you get&lt;/th&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/thead&gt;
&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;code&gt;aco&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;619 tokens&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Envelope only&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;code&gt;full&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;3,043 tokens&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Envelope + scraped body&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;
&lt;td&gt;&lt;code&gt;both&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;3,043 tokens&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td&gt;Same as &lt;code&gt;full&lt;/code&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;code&gt;full&lt;/code&gt; version costs 80% more for the same query. Most of the time, that extra 80% is paying for HTML the agent didn't need.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  And then we rebuilt our product around it
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We didn't just publish the spec.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We rewrote Stacklist around it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://media2.dev.to/dynamic/image/width=800%2Cheight=%2Cfit=scale-down%2Cgravity=auto%2Cformat=auto/https%3A%2F%2Fdev-to-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Farticles%2F24mhq8c19wg89n9godyl.png" class="article-body-image-wrapper"&gt;&lt;img src="https://media2.dev.to/dynamic/image/width=800%2Cheight=%2Cfit=scale-down%2Cgravity=auto%2Cformat=auto/https%3A%2F%2Fdev-to-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Farticles%2F24mhq8c19wg89n9godyl.png" alt="stacky ai agent" width="596" height="284"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stacky, our MCP server, now serves ACO envelopes by default. Every card in Stacklist has an envelope sitting in front of it. The dirty-flag → queue-worker → persist pipeline runs in production. By the time an agent queries Stacky, the envelope is ready.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We did this because we needed to feel it. A spec describes a shape. A product &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; one. Those are different things, and you only learn the difference when you're staring at a migration deciding whether the envelope is one column or its own table. (It's its own table. We tried both.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So Stacky now talks to agents the way we wished the web talked to agents. And we can actually measure what that costs, or doesn't.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  The numbers
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Go ask Stacky about Wikipedia's article on Artificial Intelligence.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Full body read: &lt;strong&gt;~25,000 tokens&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ACO envelope read: &lt;strong&gt;~350 tokens&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Savings: &lt;strong&gt;~99%&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://media2.dev.to/dynamic/image/width=800%2Cheight=%2Cfit=scale-down%2Cgravity=auto%2Cformat=auto/https%3A%2F%2Fdev-to-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Farticles%2Fr98tn06w088tpx0tzdsw.png" class="article-body-image-wrapper"&gt;&lt;img src="https://media2.dev.to/dynamic/image/width=800%2Cheight=%2Cfit=scale-down%2Cgravity=auto%2Cformat=auto/https%3A%2F%2Fdev-to-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Farticles%2Fr98tn06w088tpx0tzdsw.png" alt="aco envelope savings" width="800" height="1570"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That's not a benchmark we ran in a notebook. That's a real query against a real page through the real product, right now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The pattern holds across content. On a broader 13-item set:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Full bodies: ~65,000 tokens&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Envelopes: ~2,800 tokens&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reduction: &lt;strong&gt;84–93%&lt;/strong&gt;, depending on the document&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The savings aren't marginal. They're not 10% wins you have to graph to see. They're the kind of difference where the question stops being "is this worth doing" and becomes "why isn't everything shaped like this already."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  The part we haven't solved
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here's where I have to be honest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Every envelope is stamped. Tool, version, timestamp. You can see what produced an envelope and when. The provenance layer is real and it's working.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the envelope claims to &lt;em&gt;faithfully represent&lt;/em&gt; the content underneath it. And "faithfully represents" is partly a technical statement and partly a social one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What stops someone from publishing an envelope that says one thing while the body says another? What does adversarial enrichment look like? Who watches the enrichers? When an agent reads the envelope and skips the body, &lt;strong&gt;which is exactly the efficiency we want&lt;/strong&gt;, what happens when &lt;em&gt;the envelope is lying&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don't have a clean answer. There are partial ones. Signed envelopes. Verifiable enrichment chains. Reputation layers. Each of those is real work, and each shifts the problem rather than solving it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The honest version: we built a shape that makes the agent web meaningfully more efficient. We did not solve trust. We made it more visible, which is something, but visible isn't the same as solved.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That's the part I keep sitting with.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The efficiency is real. The shape works. The numbers hold up in benchmarks and in our own product. And underneath all of it is a question — what does "faithfully represents" mean when the reader has stopped checking? — that I think is the actual hard problem of the agent web, and I don't think any of us have answered it yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So we're going to keep building.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And keep sitting with it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Both at the same time.&lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>We Talked About This for Two Years. Now You Can Talk to It</title>
      <dc:creator>Martina Zrnec</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://forem.com/mz06/we-talked-about-this-for-two-years-now-you-can-talk-to-it-2di0</link>
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      <description>&lt;h1&gt;
  
  
  The Kid in the Candy Store Problem
&lt;/h1&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was a notification.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just one. Someone, somewhere, used Stacky.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not me testing it. Not my co-founder poking at the endpoints. A real person, doing a real thing, with something I built.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I stared at the screen longer than I should have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  For context
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stacky is our MCP server for Stacklist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MCP stands for Model Context Protocol. Anthropic's standard for letting AI assistants talk to external tools. If you've ever connected Claude to Gmail or Google Drive, you've touched MCP.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stacklist is where businesses and people build hubs of organized, browsable content from across the internet. Cards live inside stacks. Stacks live inside a hub. The hub is the thing someone visits, browses, shares.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stacky is what happens when you give an AI assistant hands inside that system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Add cards from a URL. Create a new stack. Search your library. Auto-tag content. Generate a summary across a whole collection. Save markdown as a knowledge capsule. All from a conversation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  What it actually took
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Writing the tools was the fast part.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The slow part was everything tools don't show you:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Auth flows that don't break when the token rotates&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Error messages that actually tell the model what went wrong&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tool descriptions written for a reader who is not a human&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pagination that respects the model's context budget&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Input schemas that survive being called wrong&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rate limiting that is kind to the user but not lazy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I spent more time on tool descriptions than on tool logic. That surprised me. MCP isn't really an API. It's closer to writing a very small onboarding document for every single function, over and over.&lt;br&gt;
If you want to try Stacky with Claude, &lt;a href="https://help.stacklist.app/articles/8103427-connect-the-stacklist-mcp-to-your-ai-assistant" rel="noopener noreferrer"&gt;there's a setup guide and it's free.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  The candy store
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here's the part I want to be honest about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stacklist has 14,000 people using it. That's not the thing that made me stare at my screen. I've shipped software my whole career. I know what launching feels like.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This was different.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For two years, we've been talking about this. What if you could just talk to your hub? What if the AI could add cards, build stacks, search across everything you've curated? What if the thing you made for humans to browse could also be the thing an AI helps you grow?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Two years of whiteboards. Two years of "one day." Two years of the idea being a shape inside our heads that we kept pointing at with our hands.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And now it's just... there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not a slide. Not a diagram. Not a Notion page. A thing. You can open a conversation and &lt;em&gt;talk&lt;/em&gt; to it. You can ask it to find something and it finds it. You can ask it to create and it creates. You can ask it to improve a stack and it does.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The sentence in my head is just: wow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm a kid in a candy store.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not because I've never shipped before. Because this specific thing, the one we kept describing to each other for two years, is alive. And it's nice. And it works. And someone is using it right now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That loop closing from "what if" to "oh there it is, that's what it feels like". I didn't know it would hit me this hard.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;
  
  
  A small honest thing
&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The strange part of building is how rarely you feel the finish line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Features ship and disappear into a backlog. Migrations complete and nobody celebrates because the system just works now. Wins go quiet fast.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But some things aren't like that. Some things are two years of talking, and then one day the thing is real, and it's used, and you get to watch it be used.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That's a different kind of quiet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The good kind.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So that's where I am this week. Watching logs. Fixing what's rough. Grinning at my laptop.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kid in a candy store.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'll take it.&lt;/p&gt;

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