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Windows10 Linux Subsystem WSL - Marketing Needed 2017-12-06

AnneTheAgile — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 14:35:01 +0000

Windows10 Linux Subsystem (WSL) is Released

The dev.to [9] article shared how to get WSL runnnig using a non-bash terminal. I haven't looked into WSL in a while, but I was really excited back when I heard it was coming. Bash is good for me.

WSL might not be built for Docker Workloads

Originally, I thought we'd be able to use 'real' linux docker in the subsystem and then manage it from windows. It seems like that is not the use case they are going after per the FAQ [16]. Instead, they seem to want to support building rails apps locally? Maybe [17] is an example of what they want to support? It seems pretty complicated though.

Let's see further how Microsoft Product / Marketing differentiates WSL

I'm confused on how I should consider using WSL since full networking support does not seem to be in their design goals. Maybe we'll get a reply to my github comment [13.1].
Anne

References With My Pseudo-Cryptic Notes
9.[] TIP WIN10 ; Get WSL up and running, Summary of articles read today 2017-12-06Wed.; 1.WSL Linux subsystem is now out of beta! ; 2.To use it, do some installs, turn it on, choose a linux from store [ubuntu+ now, debian likely tba]; 3.Beware which filesystem is which; 4.[elsewhere] USB files are ok though; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; X.Getting Up and Running with the Windows Subsystem for Linux ; ; https://dev.to/winebaths/getting-up-and-running-with-the-windows-subsystem-for-linux-8oc

13.1.[] My remark re need marketing/product input; in ; nmap not working · Issue #1349 · Microsoft/WSL ; ; https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/1349#issuecomment-349621218

16.[] ;WSL FAQ ; confusing to me; ; ; ;WSL does not aim to support GUI desktops or applications (e.g. Gnome, KDE, etc.); Also, even though you will be able to run many popular server applications (e.g. Redis), we do not recommend WSL for server scenarios – Microsoft offers a variety of solutions for running production Ubuntu workloads in Azure, Hyper-V, and Docker. ; ; ; ; ; ; One of the benefits of WSL is being able to use the same file with both Windows and Linux apps or tools.; ; ; ; ; X.Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) ; ; https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/faq

17.[]RUBY RAILS ; WIN DOCKER ; idk, not sure why/need complex? but might answer the WSL FAQ, person seems to like using it for ruby rails dev ; ; We still need to install Docker inside the WSL because it’ll give us access to the Docker CLI. We just won’t bother starting the server.; ; ;While the Docker daemon cannot run directly on WSL, you can use the Docker CLI to connect to a remote Docker daemon running through Docker for Windows or any other VM you create. It’s really awesome! Using this method, very large Rails applications respond in 200ms (or ~5s when having to compile 10,000+ lines of Javascript and SCSS). That’s with mounted volumes too! In other words, it’s very usable for day to day web development. ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; X.Setting Up Docker for Windows and WSL to Work Flawlessly — Nick Janetakis ; ; https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/setting-up-docker-for-windows-and-wsl-to-work-flawlessly

[meta] date: 2017-12-06Wed.08:07:10EST
description/unfurl: Hmmm. Windows Linux Subsystem can't use network tools - by design?

Flutter.io is Ready to go - What I learned 2017-12-03

AnneTheAgile — Sun, 03 Dec 2017 19:30:28 +0000

A few learnings from GDG's NYC DevFest in which Faisal Abid gave us thoughts and tips on writing Flutter aps. [1]

Flutter squashes single-platform bugs.

Surprisingly, perhaps due to the easy GUI SIM-previewing capabilities, Mr. Abid [2] said that he never finds bugs that are present only on Android or only on iOS. An important logical corollary is that there is twice the chance of quickly finding a bug, since it will appear in both renderings.

Possibly supporting my corollary is that [rumor has it] Google internal teams claim they code apps 2-3x faster with Flutter, eg for AdWords, AdSense.

Dart is painless and helpful.

Watching the live-coding debugging was eye-openingly fast. Having code instead of yaml/xml/etc like Xamarin GUI features is my choice. Similarly, I like Chef/Ansible/Salt over Puppet's configuration for that reason. Why learn new config languages when languages already exist? Yes, it gives much power that can be abused, but it also gives great power for good.

Flutter is maturing - Beta is rumored for 2018-01.

The upcoming Dart conference in LA, CA [3] may very well release Flutter as Beta, ie one tick up towards production from its current Alpha designation. Already, Mr. Abid says that the API is stable enough to code against, in contrast to last year.

Google is giving Flutter money - so it might be here to stay a while.

In the past, Google has created alot of great projects and then summarily dropped them. In this case, they are backing the project with non-trivial resources. For example, they hired a likely quite expensive VIP from Microsoft [4]. Here's what he has to say: "I’m writing to tell you that I think Flutter is ‘the real deal’. .... They have hit a sweet spot of productivity and power, and have the momentum and backing to be successful. The ability to write an app that runs on both iOS and Android, with one code base, without compromise, using a highly productive language and set of libraries — it’s a compelling value proposition. In short, Flutter shows tremendous potential, and I’m thrilled to be joining the team as we drive forward towards launch. To Microsoft, thank you again for all you’ve taught me. To Google, hello! Tim Sneath"

Count me convinced.

My main goal in attending the flutter GDG seminar was to learn how 'real' it is for use now by someone like me. I have no experience writing apps, but I have ideas. I wouldn't want to start something whose technology will die in a couple of years.

It makes great business sense for me that Google puts alot of its weight behind this. Devs have been wanting cross-app tools for years, and whichever company wins this market will be hearted by devs worldwide.

Anne

URLS
[0] Flutter tutorial https://codelabs.developers.google.com/codelabs/flutter/index.html

[1] Agenda page https://devfestnyc.com/schedule/day1 ; Flutter workshop slack channel https://devfestnyc.slack.com/messages/C89NK94EA/

[2] Faisal Abid's bio https://developers.google.com/experts/people/faisal-abid

[3] https://events.dartlang.org/2018/dartconf/

[4] https://medium.com/@timsneath/new-beginnings-google-bf849766a497

[meta] date: 2017-12-03Sun.14:31EST
description: Do not stop. Jump into flutter android/ios app dev now.